i joined the group and tried to enter into these discussions via the group's facebook wall. naively, i thought that by using a little irony - a la steven colbert - that i might highlight some of what i saw as the direct outcome of mike harris' common sense revolution...youthful minds moulded by the incessant rhetoric of law, order, and above all, neoliberal economic reforms at the cost of workers' rights. of course, 2, 300 members, 82 pages of wall postings, and 3 days later, i withdrew from the battle, tired and hopeless. although there were a lot of people trying to make intelligent, poignant pro-union interventions in the anti-CUPE discussions, the easy-to-post, visual interface of the facebook wall meant that these affective ruptures were continually lost to the backlogged pages of the group's wall. since it's such a shame that more people couldn't have been privy to some of the highly entertaining discussions on this site, i pasted some highlights below.
however, my infiltration did not prove totally useless. while fishing around on the group's wall i found a post from the policy chair of the york ndp group which read:
PP:
New Democrats at York University are officially NEUTRAL on this strike.
um, what? about one week and 40 impassioned exchanges later from multiple people (members and non-members alike), the group decided to change their position and support the striking workers. however, my experience in conversing with these folks has really shaken any lasting belief I had in what kind of alternative political potential the ndp can offer if they continue to attract members who believe in "staying out of labour disputes" or think that the party offers a place for a whole spectrum of ideologies, including being a Liberal: "Even within the NDP there are those at centre of left (if that make any sense) and those of left left (or further left). One can think of centre of left, closer to centre (LIBERAL)." Yikes.
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from the "york anti-strike" facebook group
some highlights
nov. 11-13th, 2008
SD:
i just hate unions. weekends, safe working conditions, power against an increasingly powerful ruling class of bosses and managers - how dare they try to make the lives of working people better. what a bunch of dicks!
now the administration, that's who i'd like to see come out of this one on top. they're the ones who are really being hurt by all this. i mean, just think of all the extra money they have to spend on gas for their new ford explorers as they wait to cross the picket line. and it also means getting back to their 2 car garage home in vaughan a few minutes later then normal. this is all not to mention all the extra work that this strike is causing for them...handling media phone calls to maintain the university's reputation, dealing with uninformed, ignorant undergraduates (and their parents) who think education is about consumer rights...honestly, those TAs are just plain rude!
why dont the TAs see that they alone have the power to end this thing?
AJ:
I don't think unions are the problem Stacy, it's how they are misused. I personally have no quarrel with what the TA's are doing in principle, I'm sure if I was in their position I'd probably be concerned too, however I cannot condone their methods. I refuse to accept that the best way that they can think of making their point needs to negatively affect 50 000 plus students (and that's just the people who actually take classes in York University.)
SW:
Seriously, Stacy? This is the students' education our "educators" are putting on hold and inconveniencing. And you know what? Maybe these TAs deserve more money, maybe they don't, the point is that I AM PAYING their wages, regardless of the digits. MY TUITION is what goes into all their pockets whether they strike or not. Their inconvenience to me is not earning them any sympathy from my wallet. I don't agree or disagree with the terms or reason for the strike, my disagreement is with the inconvenience to my education. I'm so glad other students have also realized this. I was afraid I was the only one who realized this.
Jay, I had no idea the union provided those busses! I did, however, think it was ridiculously irresponsible and ironic that the YFS would support the CUPE strike and the drop fees rally on the same day. Sometimes, I get the feeling the YFS has no idea what they're arguing, they just like to argue.
I, for one, just want to get back to school. This is my LAST semester, and I'm not even a York student. I'm a visiting Western student studying 2 half courses because it was cheaper for me to move back in with my parents than to spend another semester in London. If this strike goes on too long for me, I miss out my timeframe to apply for graduation at Western and I know the admin will not be sympathetic to York's strike.
PM:
I thought the YFS represented undergraduate students?????
SD:
yeah, that stupid YFS president - doesnt he know that the vast majority of us consumers, i mean undergraduate students, will be in positions as TAs in the future if we pursue an academic career? who does he think he is, having an intelligent analysis of labour and foresight into struggles that might affect us in the future?!? like i said before, i think it makes a lot of sense to be attacking the TAs and union organizing when the administration has absolutely no power in the situation! i mean, its not like my tuition fees pay the administration's salary as they continue to refuse to meet the union's demands and run an effective PR campaign that turns our attention away from their role in the dispute and onto the underpaid workers (aka. us in the future).
SD:
forgot to add: union = a bunch of dicks!
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BM:
I busted through the picket line today at Chimneystack Rd on my motorcycle, man were they pissed!! Definitely worth it tho
SH:
the administration has already agreed to binding arbitration. now it's up to the union to go to the table. as far as im concerned the union is holding students hostage!
SD:
Yes, if we use binding arbitration, we can force them into a corner without any rights!
"As an alternative to judges or courts settling disputes between consumers and businesses, binding arbitration works out a deal through a third party body. The arbitrator's decision is final and cannot be disputed or appealed. Businesses prefer to resolve claims through binding arbitration because it is more private, avoiding possible bad publicity that could erupt in a trial. They are also not bound to certain legal requirements, such as "discovery" whereby the persons involved in the claim have access to otherwise private information. A consumer has basically waived their constitutional right to sue when they sign a mandatory binding arbitration clause as part of a contract. Consumer advocates point out that many people do not know they have denied themselves that right. Nor are they aware that the independent arbitrator may have an interest in siding with a corporation for financial reasons."
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BD:
I assume the members of this group are not thinking about graduate school at York in the future. Otherwise, they would be supportive of the strike and their financial future as a graduate student.
NM:
U know what they say when assume...
Actually I AM thinking about Grad and law school. Why would I be out striking in the cold? I happen to like what I would be getting if I were to become a TA.
It's the contract faculty who have the raw deal.
SD:
actually, it's the administration who are getting the raw deal! the president of york is only making a measley $500, 000! if anyone should be on strike it should be the president and vps who are especially hard hit by the global financial crisis. and those TAs and contract faculty have the audacity to ask for higher wages - i mean the cheek of it all!
read all about how little ontario university president's are getting paid here:
http://www.thespec.com/art
